Retiredin1993 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Thank you for the tip, good idea to clean once a year especially in the RV which probably gets more dust than in a sticks n bricks. Not going to get an inverter as we no longer dry camp our travel days are never more than 3 or 4 hours (10 am to 1/2pm) stopping for full hook ups each afternoon and we usually park for a month or so at a time. Along those lines the installer mentioned the GE draws more power than the Samsung? I don't quite understand as the amp for each frig is listed as 15? Funny thing, the tech that replaced my start relay said GE is made by Samsung they put in their own compressor and condensers. RonUS Army retired2010 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH2016 Ford F150 XLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Joyce Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I would not take the experience with a 5 year old fridge as gospel on will a new one of the same brand and/or design run on modified sinewave power. Samsung now wants you to use a pure sinewave inverter, but used to allow modified sinewave. While a new pure sinewave inverter/charger costs a good amount of money, a reasonably sized standalone pure sinewave inverter is not that expensive, often under $200. 2004 40' Newmar Dutch Star DP towing an AWD 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid, Fulltimer July 2003 to October 2018, Parttimer now. Travels through much of 2013 - http://www.sacnoth.com - Bill, Diane and Evita (the cat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredin1993 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I agree Bill, if I was installing a new Refer I would go with a PSW. Mine might last longer if I put a PSW to this one. RonUS Army retired2010 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH2016 Ford F150 XLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker56 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I always stay at campgrounds by day or month where the electric is included. So why should I worry about the energy consumption of any refrigerator. When I need to replace my 17 year old 12 cu ft Dometic. that has worked 24/7 for over 13 years Full Time. I will pick one that is energy efficient/self defrost and fits my present opening. And cost much less then replacing cooling system on present frig. Full Time since Oct. 199999 Discovery 34Q DP | ISBDatastorm | VMSpc | Co-Pilot Live | Pressure Pro2014 MKS Twin Turbo V6 365 HP Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velos Posted January 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I always stay at campgrounds by day or month where the electric is included. So why should I worry about the energy consumption of any refrigerator. When I need to replace my 17 year old 12 cu ft Dometic. that has worked 24/7 for over 13 years Full Time. I will pick one that is energy efficient/self defrost and fits my present opening. And cost much less then replacing cooling system on present frig. The top freezer according to post #10 is the most energy efficient followed by the french door. Good point regarding dimensions, the closer the size of the frig to the existing opening the less cabinet work and subsequently less money involved to install. One of the reasons I want the french door is that when the frig doors are open they only go 1/2 way into the already small room. This has been quite a learning experience to purchase a residential frig for an RV. Our original estimate was quite substantial for the labor and materials, When we asked the specifics they said they would have to remove our rear window to get it in then reinstall the window. Glad we asked as we have an emergency window that is approximately 48 by 48 and it can be positioned at 90 degrees or just lifted off the hinges and the frig can come in that way. That knocked off about 10 hours of labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docj Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I would not take the experience with a 5 year old fridge as gospel on will a new one of the same brand and/or design run on modified sinewave power. Samsung now wants you to use a pure sinewave inverter, but used to allow modified sinewave. The 18 cu ft unit that Samsung now sells that replaced the RF197 that lots of RVers installed uses an entirely different compressor system with a continuously variable compressor rather than the standard on/off cycling that has always been the norm. I suspect that, to a large measure, this is the reason that a PSW inverter is now required. Sandie & Joel 2000 40' Beaver Patriot Thunder Princeton--425 HP/1550 ft-lbs CAT C-12 2014 Honda CR-V AWD EX-L with ReadyBrute tow bar/brake systemWiFiRanger Ambassador Follow our adventures on Facebook at Weiss Travels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboomer Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 We just recently replaced our Dometic 1350 with the new Samsung RF18HFENBBC. It has dual digital compressors and so far has shown to be super energy efficient. It gets the full boondocking test next week when we get to Q for 4 months. http://ramblingrvrat.blogspot.com/?m=1 GOD Bless America! GOD Bless Texas! GOD Bless All of our Troops! "CHARACTER is doing the right thing when no one is looking" '09 International Durastar 4400 LP Customized by 2L Custom Trucks '20 DRV Mobile Suites 40KSSB4, '10 H-D FLHRC Road King Classic, '09 Honda Rebel AmeriDeck M/C Loader in Truck Garage, Polaris RZR 570 EPS 10 - 320W Solar Panels, 4- Simpliphi 3.8 kWh 151A Lithium batteries, Victron Multiplus 3000W inverters, Victron 250/70 Charge Controllers, Progressive hardwired 50 AMP EMS, Class of 2012! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpart Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I do not know about weight of Residential compared to Absorption but since most Residential units have about 2x's the cubic inches available inside the real factor may be the weight of the ice cream and beer your will be carrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 If you are installing a new residential Fridge DO NOT run it on a modified sine wave inverter. You "might" get away with it. But the new fridges mostly use technology that does not do well on modified sine wave. DO NOT do it. As someone said, a dedicated pure sine wave inverter is not that expensive.... Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulltimer51 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 We just recently replaced our Dometic 1350 with the new Samsung RF18HFENBBC. It has dual digital compressors and so far has shown to be super energy efficient. It gets the full boondocking test next week when we get to Q for 4 months. Not to quibble but you may find that you have only one compressor, but two evaporators. George2011 F350 6.7PSD CC 4X4 DRW Lariate2015 Mobile Suites 41 RSSB4 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 It seems like a good time to ask folks in the know what are some of the better sources for buying PSW inverters and recommendations on which ones have good reputations for reliability based on your experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 We bought our 1000w PSW inverter from this company based on a recommendation from a fellow SKPS member. Good service, price variety of things to choose from. http://www.donrowe.com/ 2010 Newmar Dutch Aire 4304-Spartan Chassis-Cummins ISL 425hp-2013 Chevrolet Equinox AWD Towed-SKP# 120487-FMCA #402879- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulltimer51 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 The 18 cu ft unit that Samsung now sells that replaced the RF197 that lots of RVers installed uses an entirely different compressor system with a continuously variable compressor rather than the standard on/off cycling that has always been the norm. I suspect that, to a large measure, this is the reason that a PSW inverter is now required. The Samsung is electronically (read computer) controlled. It will even give you trouble/fault codes as it will self diagnose when the power comes back on. George2011 F350 6.7PSD CC 4X4 DRW Lariate2015 Mobile Suites 41 RSSB4 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docj Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 It will even give you trouble/fault codes as it will self diagnose when the power comes back on. Actually, the older RF197 does that, also. Sandie & Joel 2000 40' Beaver Patriot Thunder Princeton--425 HP/1550 ft-lbs CAT C-12 2014 Honda CR-V AWD EX-L with ReadyBrute tow bar/brake systemWiFiRanger Ambassador Follow our adventures on Facebook at Weiss Travels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velos Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Follow up: Because we were limited to 68" tall we couldn't find a french door (3 door bottom freezer frig) that would fit so we went with a 2 door bottom freezer frig. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Whirlpool-30-in-W-18-7-cu-ft-Bottom-Freezer-Refrigerator-in-Black-WRB329DMBB/205140703 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Joyce Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 JM: How badly does it stick out of the hole, since it is not a counter depth fridge? 2004 40' Newmar Dutch Star DP towing an AWD 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid, Fulltimer July 2003 to October 2018, Parttimer now. Travels through much of 2013 - http://www.sacnoth.com - Bill, Diane and Evita (the cat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velos Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 JM: How badly does it stick out of the hole, since it is not a counter depth fridge? We have a 40" fifth wheel. We have no island and no coffee table so it is a pretty wide open space. Also we replaced the dining table with a desk so there is nothing extending beyond the slide-out depth on the opposite side of the kitchen/frig. There is a single handle on the right hand side of the frig as you face it which is less imposing then the double center handle for the french door. I would have loved the 3 door frig but it just didn't fit without major cabinet adjustment/cost this one just slid in with minimal cabinet work. I do love the bottom freezer vs the side by side freezer in our previous RV frig. ......................Height Width Depth our opening 68"..........32.75" ....28. 5" the new frig 67"..........30..........30.88" (without handle) Difference......-1 ..........-2.75 ... +2.38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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