RandyA Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's not my truck or me but another frequent contributor to this thread. Perhaps he will reveal his identity here soon, but both of us are in the same Florida RV Park if you care to guess. It was suppose to be a 5 minute job but it turned out to be more like a 5 hour job. The lower shock bolt was literately frozen (rusted) to the steel bushing inside the rubber part of the shock. Despite PB Blaster, a sledge hammer and air hammer it would not budge. The only available alternative was to cut both ends of the bolt inside the shock mount - not really that easy on a G8 bolt with a battery powered grinder spinning a cut-off wheel. But, it is now out. Tomorrow a new bolt for the shock and maybe doing the 5 minute change on the driver's side . Why is it the seemingly simplest projects turn out to be so complicated ? Randy, Nancy and Oscar "The Great White" - 2004 Volvo VNL670, D12, 10-speed, converted to single axle pulling a Keystone Cambridge 5th wheel, 40', 4 slides and about 19,000# with empty tanks. ARS - WB4BZX, Electrical Engineer, Master Electrician, D.Ed., Professor Emeritus - Happily Retired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I know who that is. Do I win the prize? And oh BTW he may want to add this project to his ECR discussion. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray.service Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 It's not my truck or me but another frequent contributor to this thread. Perhaps he will reveal his identity here soon, but both of us are in the same Florida RV Park if you care to guess. It was suppose to be a 5 minute job but it turned out to be more like a 5 hour job. The lower shock bolt was literately frozen (rusted) to the steel bushing inside the rubber part of the shock. Despite PB Blaster, a sledge hammer and air hammer it would not budge. The only available alternative was to cut both ends of the bolt inside the shock mount - not really that easy on a G8 bolt with a battery powered grinder spinning a cut-off wheel. But, it is now out. Tomorrow a new bolt for the shock and maybe doing the 5 minute change on the driver's side . Why is it the seemingly simplest projects turn out to be so complicated ? Went thru the same thing a few years ago. The bolt and bushing, after being cut out looked like one piece or steel. Drivers side was worse. As I look back using the thin cutoff wheel in a pinch prone way was probably dumb but no other choice. Ray & Deb - Shelbi the Aussie & Lexington the cat2004 Volvo 630 500HP ISX "Bertha D" - 10 Speed-MaxBrake -ET hitch.SOLD2009 Designer 35RLSA SOLDFulltiming since '07 - stopped 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Used hot wrench to pull those same bolts!?? Bill and Joan and 3 Collie pups 2001 Volvo VNL 770 "The Doghouse" Singled short, "ET" hItch VED12 465HP Gen 1 Autoshift 3.58 ratio 2005 Mobile Suite 38RL3 2011 Smart Passion loaded piggybacK Weigh-It Portable RV Scales http://www.weighitrv.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarvan Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah, looks lie gas-ax time. I have a burglars kit, although I don't carry it on the road....... Previously a 2017 Forest River, Berkshire 38A, "The Dragonship". https://dragonship.blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallow Draft Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Same experience for me. The parts after removal would not separate with a 12000 # press!!!!!! 2004 Volvo 630, Freedomline, Rear view camera, Max Brake, Jackalopee, 38 ft 4 horse LQ Platinum, 40ft Jayco Talon toy hauler Http:/www.flickr.com/photos/shallow_draft/ Https://flic.kr/p/fqhyAN You are not lost if you don't care where you are!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I used a Harbor Freight reciprocating saw on mine. All the other bolts screwed out. Glad it was the last one that was the problem. Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I used. ?Hello KAT MOBILE TRUCK SERVICE?? I need 2 front shocks installed please. ?Yes the beer is ice cold. ? You'll be right over?? Cool thanks ? I hate being a smart ass. Well ok sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Bronc, I still have one to go. Before it's over with, I may wish i had called someone, also. Everyone needs a challenge from time to time.........hope this one will tide me over for a while. Grind on........and watch the sparks.... Charlie Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Just kidding I've been there many times. When I'm not driving trucks full time. I have a part time mobile fleet welding business and have been called out to cut off many a shock for the fleet mechanic I do some work for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 Metabos are wicked tools. We use them too cut pipe, steel, whatever. yes sparks but clean quick cuts. It how I cut also off of work. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 32". Just the right length to hold a tool. You have some long arms "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 A 6010 rod on 180 amps up will cut rather good also. Have used that many a time in a pinch. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 After the fight that the passenger side front shock put up, the driver side shock change was anticlimatic.. The fender liner came off easily, the bottom bolt spun easily and pushed out with light finger pressure, The top bolt cooperated well and the new shock went in with minor lower bushing length adjustment. Zip zop and done. I was relieved not to have to wrestle the drivers side into submission like we did the passenger side. Some days, things just go better than they do on other days. Randy didn't seem disappointed that he didn't get to add much new excitement to the forum or that he didn't get have to listen to as many expletives as he did yesterday. Be safe, Charlie. Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuzn-To-Grow-Up Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 I have a safety question. If a cutting torch is used, is it possible that the oil (or gas) in the shocks could get hot enough to rupture the shock body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray.service Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Seals would probably fail before a shock body would come apart. Ray & Deb - Shelbi the Aussie & Lexington the cat2004 Volvo 630 500HP ISX "Bertha D" - 10 Speed-MaxBrake -ET hitch.SOLD2009 Designer 35RLSA SOLDFulltiming since '07 - stopped 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 If a cutting torch is used, is it possible that the oil (or gas) in the shocks could get hot enough to rupture the shock body? No. Think about how a shock works. Oil passes through an orifice. There is a volume to take the oil displaced as the shaft enters and displaces oil volume. "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Or the gas/fluid is already out of the shock due to wear or age. Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarvan Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 A 6010 rod on 180 amps up will cut rather good also. Have used that many a time in a pinch. WHOA! Like we're always worried about burning a hole and turning it down..... crank it! Thank you! Previously a 2017 Forest River, Berkshire 38A, "The Dragonship". https://dragonship.blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldRush Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Safety Question! Looks like no eye protection! I hope I'm wrong on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 There were snug fitting safety glasses on the otherwise guilty party shown. My wife and assistants saw to that. Unfortunately, I did have to remove the guard from the grinder to get the depth of cut I needed. They know I'm not smart enough to look after myself. That's why they won't let me work unsupervised !!!! I do appreciate them all, though. Be safe,,,,and wear your safety glasses..... Charlie Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldRush Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Good, that's the one thing I hate seeing on those car/motorcycle build shows on tv. They always seems to be people doing crap without safety glasses on for "The Shot!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I made 3'trips to my eye doctor for removal of a foreign object. (Metal) thank God she's really good at it. Nothing like watching someone use a dermal tool on your eyeball to drill out rust. I finally figured out that I was looking thru the bifocal at the bottom of my glasses letting sparks and grinding In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldRush Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I had a flake of aluminum fall from the cabin level of a plane down to the cargo pit where I was working and land right on my eyeball. I had to have it removed by a Dr and Hypodermic Needle. The flake was so thin it fluttered like a falling feather around the bill of my ball cap and around my glasses. Craziest thing ever but when you have fans blowing to keep cool c£@p happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Good advise for sure! After ER visit then two eye DRs then having this DR buff my eye ball out with a Dremal I wear protection. ??? Bill and Joan and 3 Collie pups 2001 Volvo VNL 770 "The Doghouse" Singled short, "ET" hItch VED12 465HP Gen 1 Autoshift 3.58 ratio 2005 Mobile Suite 38RL3 2011 Smart Passion loaded piggybacK Weigh-It Portable RV Scales http://www.weighitrv.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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