Kirk W Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 10 Cheapest Small Towns in America according to the Kiplinger publications folks. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Next I would check crime rates and weather patterns. As you quickly learn in RVing cheap is often not best. Linda Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertraveler Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 The article states: Quote We based our rankings on the Council for Community and Economic Research's calculations of living expenses in 269 urban areas. Its Cost of Living Index tracks prices for housing, groceries, utilities, transportation, health care, and miscellaneous goods and services (such as going to a movie theater or hair salon.) No mention of taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly2low Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Kiplinger has lists of state tax ratings. A couple of these towns would be in favorable states I am familiar with a few on this list. Some good, some less so Rich and Carol 2007 Dynamax DQ 340 XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted May 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 I think that what surprised me most was the range of sizes, 13k to 47k populations. I had expected more like 5k to 15k population. I wonder if they considered the availability of healthcare, beyond the basic needs? The 3 towns listed that I'm most familiar with are not places that I'd be likely to settle down, but it was interesting. Kiplinger does seem to produce a lot of that sort of information. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 48 minutes ago, Kirk Wood said: I think that what surprised me most was the range of sizes, 13k to 47k populations. I had expected more like 5k to 15k population. I wonder if they considered the availability of healthcare, beyond the basic needs? The 3 towns listed that I'm most familiar with are not places that I'd be likely to settle down, but it was interesting. Kiplinger does seem to produce a lot of that sort of information. It seems to me that larger towns were considered because quality of life was in their calculation, not just cheapest cost. At least, that was my takeaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 I'm sure it is age, but none of those would be somewhere I would want to be at this stage of our lives because of the lack of a wide array of medical specialists. Plus, no cultural arts centers, lack of museums, and those that were small college towns, which would have arts programs, were in areas that I would not want to live. Of course I'm a West Coast gal. Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, Barbaraok said: I'm sure it is age, but none of those would be somewhere I would want to be at this stage of our lives because of the lack of a wide array of medical specialists. Plus, no cultural arts centers, lack of museums, and those that were small college towns, which would have arts programs, were in areas that I would not want to live. Of course I'm a West Coast gal. Nowhere in the article did I see where this was supposed to have anything to do with quality of life or even somewhere one might to live. It's simply the "cheapest" small towns. Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Which is why I said "areas that I would not want to live". Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted May 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Quote Before you pack up and relocate to one of the 10 cheapest small towns in America, weigh the pros and cons. A low cost of living is attractive, but the allure lessens if jobs are scarce, paychecks are small or the area lacks things to do. Plan an extended visit to ensure the small town fits your lifestyle. I came from a rural farming community where they consider any town of more than 20k population to be a big city. About half of my relatives still live in that part of the world with the biggest concentration of my cousins living in Council Grove, KS , the county seat for Morris Co. where I grew up and still have many friends & relatives. When I go back, there are many things in terms of quality of life that I find there which we don't have in more metropolitan areas with more educational, cultural, and entertainment opportunities. Everyone there knows each other and they tend to also look out for one another when any sort of help is needed. Quality of life is something that some people define quite differently than others and you would never convince most of those folks that larger population centers have better life quality. But they also have to drive at least an hour to do many of the things which most of us take for granted and I truly believe that my uncle might be alive today if the ambulance had taken him to a big hospital, rather than the tiny small town hospital where they were living. Medical facilities today are one of the critical differences between small-town America and metropolitan areas. I love going back there to visit, but it doesn't take very long parked out at the family farm to figure out that we are not interested in moving back permanently. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justRich Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 I find the "top 10", "best 5" type of stories entertaining - but they are basically filler material that writers write because people will read them. Distance from an international airport is important to me, as well as healthcare facilities - as others have noted, "Omissions" in these sort of articles need to be considered. Even so, useful information can sometimes be gained if good source quotes are included in an article such as this example: https://taxfoundation.org/ ~Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Camper Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 Some posters mentioned other things they were interested in before making a selection on a place to live. This site we found is pretty good at giving a longer look at other things like taxes, healthcare, cost of living, etc. Just an idea. http://www.bestplaces.net/find/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 We like it where we are. Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Happy Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 I asked my father once why the grass was greener on the other side of the fence, and he said: "If I have to tell you, you won't understand". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted July 3, 2018 Report Share Posted July 3, 2018 We have been to half of those cities and Ashland, Ohio is not far from us. We could live in Ashland, Ohio in fact we have several Rv friends that do but we are satisfied with the city we are in. Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I have worked there, Ashland. Was charged state, federal and local taxes there. I sure didn't think it was cheaper there. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 That is because Ohio has a State tax and Ashland has a local tax and I believe most of us pay Federal Tax no matter where we are . We live in Ohio.We pay Federal tax, We pay Ohio tax we do not pay local taxes. We get along. Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/3/2018 at 9:46 AM, Captain Happy said: "If I have to tell you, you won't understand". Erma Bombeck once said, "the grass is always greener over the septic field!" Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, richfaa said: That is because Ohio has a State tax and Ashland has a local tax and I believe most of us pay Federal Tax no matter where we are . We live in Ohio.We pay Federal tax, We pay Ohio tax we do not pay local taxes. We get along. Never worked anywhere else that does that. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, GlennWest said: Never worked anywhere else that does that. There are very few States that do not have a State Income tax just 7 or 8 as I recall.The States that do not have a State income tax usually make it up in other areas. Florida relies on sales taxes, and its property taxes are above the national average. Local /municipal taxes are also not uncommon. The city we live in has a local tax but retirees are exempt. Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Minnesota has a state income tax but we exempt a lot of things from sales tax--like clothes. Which is one of the things that makes the Mall of America a popular destination. We also exempt groceries, but only edible ingredients, not ready to eat or restaurant food. Plus, text books. It's one way we help people who have limited income make that income stretch. Linda Sand Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 9 hours ago, richfaa said: There are very few States that do not have a State Income tax just 7 or 8 as I recall.The States that do not have a State income tax usually make it up in other areas. Florida relies on sales taxes, and its property taxes are above the national average. Local /municipal taxes are also not uncommon. The city we live in has a local tax but retirees are exempt. Wasn't referring to state tax. They charge that and a local tax. Big surprise when I got paycheck. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted July 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 Quote Personal income tax top 10 California 13.3% Oregon 9.9% Minnesota 9.85% Iowa 8.98% New Jersey 8.97% Vermont 8.95% District of Columbia 8.95% New York 8.82% Hawaii 8.25% Wisconsin 7.65% Only seven states have no personal income tax: Wyoming Washington Texas South Dakota Nevada Florida Alaska Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted July 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, GlennWest said: Wasn't referring to state tax. They charge that and a local tax. State by state total tax burden per household, according to USA TODAY. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 13 hours ago, sandsys said: Minnesota has a state income tax but we exempt a lot of things from sales tax--like clothes. Which is one of the things that makes the Mall of America a popular destination. We also exempt groceries, but only edible ingredients, not ready to eat or restaurant food. Plus, text books. It's one way we help people who have limited income make that income stretch. Linda Sand Ohio is sort of the same .We do pay State tax but after all the deductibles like retired , etc is not all that bad. I was close on the States that do not have income tax. We researched that when we were considering going Full time. Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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