rickeieio Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Kirk W said: Kirk, thank you for not posting that earlier, or I would have had coffee all over my desk. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, rickeieio said: Kirk, thank you for not posting that earlier, or I would have had coffee all over my desk. Rickeieio; given that there are only 2 times of day now, coffee and alcohol, what ended up on your desk? Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, sandsys said: But, routines have been disrupted. According to the original post bathroom stops we used to make at school, work, restaurants, etc. are all happening at home now so the need for residential TP did, indeed, increase. Linda Then why are the commercial account distributors also having trouble keeping TP in stock as well? Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Dutch_12078 said: Then why are the commercial account distributors also having trouble keeping TP in stock as well? Distribution systems have also been disrupted. Manufacturers are having trouble getting supplies and shipping products. Trucking companies were already understaffed before people began staying home. Our daughter's boyfriend was working full time over the fall and winter just trying to recruit new drivers before this pandemic even got started. I don't understand why all of this is so hard for you to understand. Linda Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Darryl&Rita said: Rickeieio; given that there are only 2 times of day now, coffee and alcohol, what ended up on your desk? Well, there is a time in between when we drink water..... As I remember, you are not a fan of alcohol, so you likely have some other weakness. On the other hand, we must really be bored to spend this much time debating something so trivial as "rectal ribbon," or as the Aussies say, "Pooh Tickets." Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, sandsys said: Distribution systems have also been disrupted. Manufacturers are having trouble getting supplies and shipping products. Trucking companies were already understaffed before people began staying home. Our daughter's boyfriend was working full time over the fall and winter just trying to recruit new drivers before this pandemic even got started. I don't understand why all of this is so hard for you to understand. Linda I understand what you're saying, but apparently it's you that's not seeing the larger picture that emptied the stores and distributors TP supplies and outstripped the manufacturing capabilities for no discernible reason related to COVID-19 or any other diseases. People started hoarding TP early on and the system is just now starting to catch up with the unexpected demand to some degree. The shortages started well before companies were laying off staff. If TP buying had stayed at normal levels, there would be virtually no widespread shortages. There was just no rationale for the run on the stuff in the first place. Now it's a case of trying to catch up with limited personnel available as people are grabbing product as soon as it hits the shelves because they don't know if it will be there when they need it later on. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms60ocb Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 hours ago, sandsys said: Manufacturers are having trouble getting supplies and shipping products. Linda And part of the problem for home consumers is getting the right packing the the product. Never was a real finding eggs for sale. Oh maybe the 6, 12 or 18 egg package were out you could find a box 30 dozen. Same thing Toilet Paper who wanted the the big 10 inch ? rolls. Restaurants and their suppliers has surplus. Clay in Central Texas Quote Clay & Marcie Too old to play in the snow Diesel pusher and previously 2 FW and small Class C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Dutch_12078 said: I understand what you're saying, but apparently it's you that's not seeing the larger picture that emptied the stores and distributors TP supplies and outstripped the manufacturing capabilities for no discernible reason related to COVID-19 or any other diseases. People started hoarding TP early on and the system is just now starting to catch up with the unexpected demand to some degree. The shortages started well before companies were laying off staff. If TP buying had stayed at normal levels, there would be virtually no widespread shortages. There was just no rationale for the run on the stuff in the first place. Now it's a case of trying to catch up with limited personnel available as people are grabbing product as soon as it hits the shelves because they don't know if it will be there when they need it later on. Precisely that ^^^^^^^. Possibly due to media stories as depicted in the video I referenced. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) On 4/6/2020 at 2:17 PM, chirakawa said: If I was going to hoard anything, it would be produce. With the borders closed, there's no one to pick the crop in the field. I saw on the news where they interviewed a farmer with 70,000 acres and no one to harvest it. Normally, he uses migrant workers from Mexico on work visas. Another large farmer in S. Georgia said his migrant workers are stuck in Guatemala, borders are closed. He expects to go broke if he can't hire enough pickers. Do I remember reading the present U.S.A. unemployment is near 5%, or 7.1 million workers? Edited April 9, 2020 by Ray,IN Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 21 hours ago, Pat & Pete said: There can't be a shortage . I went to the store this morning and found a skid filled with TP . Still in original packages . No worries . we're set for a while , as I bought an 8 pack . That's great for your area. Not true where I am at the moment. Also, I can't go into stores as my hubby just had open heart surgery and is recovering at home - - I have to pickup groceries, etc. Things are not equal in all areas around the country. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durangodon Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Here's an AP story on the shortage. It gives a few buying and usage statistics. It says Americans use an average of one roll every 2 1/2 days. Why a TP shortage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, Barbaraok said: Things are not equal in all areas around the country. They never have been or ever will be . It's part of the 'beauty' . We have choices . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, durangodon said: It says Americans use an average of one roll every 2 1/2 days. I think that must be for cheap toilet paper. Scott lasts a lot longer than that. Other stuff has posted limits in my local grocery, like eggs and paper towels. Edited April 9, 2020 by hemsteadc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durangodon Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, hemsteadc said: I think that must be for cheap toilet paper. Scott lasts a lot longer than that. Other stuff has posted limits in my local grocery, like eggs and paper towels. I don't know where they got their data. It's pretty accurate for me. I buy double rolls and get 5 or 6 days out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Attached is the exact problem in all this. WARNING! Adult language and references. I have no way to edit those out. Jay https://youtu.be/cSLrbYsqZ4o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Local Costco(s) have plenty - Charmin - but not Kirkwood brand. Here's the downside......... I saw a car full of obviously bored HS kids pull up to a nearby home (also home to HS kids) late last night. They all got out and "TP'd" the house, and the tree in the front yard. Just like the Repo man - gone in 30 seconds.! While I was still shaking my head in disbelief.........a second car pulled up. Figured here comes the another bunch of kids - or somebody was a bit slow to give 'em a piece of their mind for such a wasteful display! Nope! - two elderly couples got out and proceeded to collect the TP ! One elderly gent climbed into the lower branches of the tree and tossed down TP "strips" to his wife below......while she hollered, "Hurry up Milt, we gotta see where they're going next !!". Next time I'll have my video camera ready...😁 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Not sure what is driving the DEMAND part of the equation, but I used to make Charmin & Bounty, 15 years of that ending in 1989. The plants ran 24/7 then and still are. Supply is good but hoarding it makes the curve out of balance. Just hoping that at some point the TP virus curve will level out like the Covid virus curve. For all concerned this cant and shouldnt continue. It affects us all. And TP is ONLY 1 example. See Hydroxycholoroquin, Tylenol, N95 masks, PPE, some groceries. The best approach is MODERATION. Its what those in my house are practicing. As an essential worker, I have mixed feelings everytime I go to work. I appreciate the work, appreciate the $, appreciate the getting out of the house to keep the supply chain functioning(I work in distribution warehouses), but cant help but wonder if the risk is worth it. Please all, be safe and wear your masks. The life you save might be your own. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 In this part of the country (north TX), supplies are starting to improve. Our local CVS had both store brand and Scotts in TP and Bounty & store brand in paper towels. Our son reports a good supply of store brand paper products at Sam's Club. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Around our part of the northeast, Angel Soft TP seems to be the brand making the fastest comeback. Not in huge amounts, but I've heard of at least four area stores that have had some on the shelves for the past week or so along with occasional house brands. I sure would like to see some Charmin Ultra Soft though... Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynosback Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Costco had a pallet with about 10 cases. Left 5 minutes latter it was empty. Every cart in the place had one and most with paper towels in it also. So I was excited to be able to put one in my cart before it was gone. And this was the Kirkland brand, not a main name. Quote 2015 Ram 3500 RC DRW CTD AISIN 410 rear 2016 Mobile Suites 38RSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLRam1 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 To stop the hoarding, let supply and demand pricing take place and all this stops. Of course food distributors have plenty, buy from them. The cases are normally 48 half case or 96 count full case, ask any restaurant to order it for you. Quote Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Meat will be the next "run" since a lot of meat packing operations are closing because of huge numbers of employees with COVID19 virus from working shoulder to shoulder. Also, not all states allow restaurants to sell 'supply' items directly to public. Arizona has promulgated emergency regulation to allow restaurants to sell excess TP, paper towels, etc to public. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 It is kind of hard to hoard in a RV due to limited space. We did see hoarding in Central Florida folks coming out of Publix with shopping carts full of "stuff" We have not had a problem buying what we needed. We are now home in Northern Ohio and we have no problems. Quote Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5RCD Posted April 22, 2020 Report Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/5/2020 at 3:36 PM, pjstough said: People were hoarding TP way before restaurants started closing. Do you reckon they take TRADE- INS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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