Dutch_12078 Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just now, GlennWest said: Our jobs are plant maintance and new construction. Plants won't issue badges due to this virus and distanceing laws. So basically if you are out of work when the mask and distancing laws came in effect, you don't get a job. I have not worked since april. So your complaint is really with the virus rather than the proven effective means of combating it. Ok... Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Glenn, then your beef is with the companies. Those are company directives and has nothing to do with either the virus nor the common sense public health practices. The masks didn't put you out of a job, lazy companies did. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, GlennWest said: Plants won't issue badges due to this virus and distanceing laws. I find that puzzling?? Here in the Dallas area, construction is booming and just today I drove past a site with steel going up and welders at work in several locations. In addition, there is a large sign that says "now hiring." I think that you must be applying to the wrong companies Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehc Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 That is very strange that wearing a mask to protect your fellow citizens would make you unemployable. I would have guessed refusing to wear a mask would be the reason. ps, I am retired construction and have turned down jobs where I did not even apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Y'all out of touch. The distance laws cut the jobs in half. Workforce of 1000 is now 500. Also Kirk, that sign is strange. Modern steel erection now is all bolt up. No welding. Welding comes into use when pipe and equipment is brought in. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, GlennWest said: Feel they do more harm than good. Feeling is not the same as knowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, GlennWest said: No welding. Welding comes into use when pipe and equipment is brought in. Since I do not have a picture, and you are too far away to take you there, I'll leave you to your opinion. 🙂 Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, GlennWest said: Y'all out of touch. The distance laws cut the jobs in half. Workforce of 1000 is now 500. Also Kirk, that sign is strange. Modern steel erection now is all bolt up. No welding. Welding comes into use when pipe and equipment is brought in. Glenn, first that has nothing to do with masks. Yes, distance means the number of workers in a given area will be reduced, but same number of welds need to be done. Thus employers will negotiate longer completion times. Unemployment is high in a lot of different jobs. And will stay that way until we have a vaccine and/or other ways of accomplishing the tasks are devised. This is a boon to robotic development. Lots of jobs will never come back, the virus didn’t cause this realignment in the workforce, it is just hastening it. What we as a society aren’t doing if figuring out how to help people adapt. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Google "Welders needed in Texas" "Now Hiring" - results indicate (among others) pipe fitters and welders, numerous companies, various (cities) including Dallas. Maybe they are just taking apps -or- the pay & benefits are not commensurate with your expectations, or ??? BTW - no info posted on masks req'd or not, LOL. - - However, *if* I was an employer (personnel dept, or whatever), I would be impressed by the guy who "came prepared" (wearing a mask) - even if *I* didn't personally feel the need to wear one. Kinda like a former US Marine I worked with. He had an interview before a promotional board for Sgt. On arrival, he placed a perfectly ironed & pressed uniform shirt on a hanger (*with Sgt. stripes*) on the hook over the door. When asked why - he stated it would *not* be proper to leave the room out of uniform if he was promoted. (He was). . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted September 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 Please close this topic. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, GlennWest said: Please close this topic. I think you have to initiate it yourself by clicking on something.... I saw it once but I don't know where. Hope you find work soon! Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, GlennWest said: Please close this topic. You started the house fire, now you get to watch it. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimK Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 20 hours ago, Barbaraok said: .... Had to go into a Batteries Plus store today because I needed an older battery design for our MiFi, Verizon no longer carries it, they did. ...... No, you did not have to go into a store to get a battery, old or new. The last time I was in a store was early March. Since then I went once to pickup books at the library. You select online and then retrieve a bag of books at the lobby entrance. Amazon delivers almost everything I order within 1 day. If you do not want to buy constantly from Amazon there are plenty of other choices. It is also very likely that internet buying will cost less than buying in a regular store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted September 2, 2020 Report Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, GlennWest said: Please close this topic. U have been around a long time and I am extremely sympathetic to your circumstance. I also hope it gets better. I do stil believe the mask has been the way to go to get control and surely do wonder what would have happened if we had started using them way earlier. I am just your average everyday DA but I said that way back in Feb. even if we had to improvise them which of course we mostly had to do. Hang in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 5:31 PM, mptjelgin said: We have disposable masks secreted away in every nook and cranny of each vehicle. I always manage to leave the car without one, and as I turn to go back to the car my wife whips out an extra one from her purse. She seems to keep an infinite supply in there as well. Yep, what would we do without a wife to look after us? Hope I never find out. She has masks in zip-loc bags in the MH, her Jeep, my truck, and by the doors out of our house. We just bought another box of 50 at Sams Club last week. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 hours ago, JimK said: No, you did not have to go into a store to get a battery, old or new. The last time I was in a store was early March. Since then I went once to pickup books at the library. You select online and then retrieve a bag of books at the lobby entrance. Amazon delivers almost everything I order within 1 day. If you do not want to buy constantly from Amazon there are plenty of other choices. It is also very likely that internet buying will cost less than buying in a regular store. Since the battery was swollen and I couldn't get the case to close, I needed to get it changed out yesterday. Amazon is now taking 3-4 days for prime. And everyone was following the rules, the store was not crowded, everyone was spacing in the store, etc. I am really now sure why the hostility from you? Guess I didn't phrase the statement correctly. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrider Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 Yup, I've forgot my mask but now carry spares. What gets me once in the store is the people that use the mask as a key to get in and then take it off. The stores should have a way to enforce that as well. Quote Dave & Diane 2020 New Horizon Majestic 5th wheel 2018 Ram 5500 2014 Tiffin Phaeton 42LH (SOLD) 2012 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited (SOLD)http://daveanddiane.wordpress.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqRmO1rO4cu3rFANF1iG6Q http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/4;10752;80/st/20120701/e/Went+fulltime/dt/-2/k/271f/event.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, hdrider said: The stores should have a way to enforce that as well. I concur that is ideal but realistically not all business will be able to do this as much as we may wish. Some of the larger ones with more staff might be able to deal with it better. As always now W-mart is able to do better with more clout than many other stores. Stores with enough staff to moniter security cameras and respond will obviously be able to do better. I have noticed stores are rewording their signs to state you have to wear one the entire time instore and wear it over mouth AND nose. Applause, Applause for the ones that are trying to protect us. Now if the one that I tend to use would finish their upgrade I would be happier. I average about once every 10 days and almost everything seems to be in a different location every time I go. (probably exagerating a little in frustration) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsara Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, hdrider said: Yup, I've forgot my mask but now carry spares. What gets me once in the store is the people that use the mask as a key to get in and then take it off. The stores should have a way to enforce that as well. 2 hours ago, bigjim said: I concur that is ideal but realistically not all business will be able to do this as much as we may wish. Some of the larger ones with more staff might be able to deal with it better. As always now W-mart is able to do better with more clout than many other stores. Stores with enough staff to moniter security cameras and respond will obviously be able to do better. I have noticed stores are rewording their signs to state you have to wear one the entire time instore and wear it over mouth AND nose. Applause, Applause for the ones that are trying to protect us. Now if the one that I tend to use would finish their upgrade I would be happier. I average about once every 10 days and almost everything seems to be in a different location every time I go. (probably exagerating a little in frustration) What about people that can't wear a mask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, kurtsara said: What about people that can't wear a mask? Fortunately there's very few people that legitimately can't tolerate standard medical procedure masks. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 3 hours ago, hdrider said: The stores should have a way to enforce that as well. In this area they are. I have seen an employee in Lowe's tell a customer to either put a mask on, or leave the premises. 59 minutes ago, kurtsara said: What about people that can't wear a mask? So are you saying that you do wear a mask willingly, but are concerned that someone else may not be able to? Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted September 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 Can't fight the rules but isn't the only one at risk is the one without a mask? Would rather be voluntary. If you at risk, wear. Actually preventing healthy people from getting virus is preventing antibodies. I could be wrong Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GlennWest said: Can't fight the rules but isn't the only one at risk is the one without a mask? Not the case at all. The issue is that many people have COVID19 and do not know, or don't have symptoms. The primary effect of everyone wearing a mask is that the person who has it but is masked doesn't spread what he as nearly as much and the person who wears a mask near him also lowers the chance of catching it. But it takes both people wearing it to be really effective. If there were enough of the N95 masks for everyone to have one of those and to then dispose of them wearing them for only one outing, then it might be fine for those who have or carry the virus to go anywhere they wish without a mask, but there is still not an unlimited supply of the N95 masks so most of us are wearing homemade masks that are much less effective. As has been stated here many times, we wear a mask as much to protect others as to protect ourselves. Edited September 3, 2020 by Kirk W Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, kurtsara said: What about people that can't wear a mask? Most businesses will make arrangements to bring purchases out to car, etc. It is a pandemic, so not all people may be able to be do everything they want to do. Even people with severe COPD can usually function with a mask for shorts period of time, and if they can't then they sure as hell shouldn't be in a situation where the virus can be easily passed! Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 3, 2020 Report Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, GlennWest said: Can't fight the rules but isn't the only one at risk is the one without a mask? Would rather be voluntary. If you at risk, wear. Actually preventing healthy people from getting virus is preventing antibodies. I could be wrong Not wearing a mask PUTS OTHERS AT RISK. The primary reason a person wears a mask, like your surgeon before he cuts you open, is so you don't pass an infection to someone else! I wear a mask to protect you, you wear a mask to protect me. And if we each wear a mask, then we have really reduced the risks - keep 6' minimum distance, we've reduced it even further and one can do some shopping in stores, etc. The amount of antibodies that you might get from an infection IS NOT WORTH HAVING OTHER PEOPLE DIE FOR IT! This is a NOVEL virus, meaning that there is no antibodies to anything like it that have been passed down from mother to child. Edited September 3, 2020 by Barbaraok Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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