Kirk W Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Evidence slowly building for long-term heart problems post-COVID-19 Quote Coronaviruses spread primarily through material released when we breathe, and they cause respiratory symptoms. And SARS-CoV-2, with part of its name coming from "severe acute respiratory syndrome," didn't appear to be an exception. But as time went on, additional symptoms became clear—loss of smell, digestive-tract issues—and these weren't likely to be due to infection of the respiratory tract. And over time, what also became apparent is that the symptoms didn't necessarily fade when the virus was cleared. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Corona means new/not seen before. This is a learn as we go experience, for EVERYONE. I think the medical community has done an outstanding job during this pandemic. Today the Surgeon General told the states to be ready for a November release of a vaccine, just-in-case. While they are doing their best, I'll continue trying to do my best to follow their advice, and await further guidance. Contracting COVID-19 has very serious effects on the human body. The latest death statistics; Total U.S.A. population as of 8/3/20 = 330,052,960, total deaths from COVID-19 as of 8/29/20 = 172,884. If my math is correct, that is 0.052% of the USA population is attributed to dying from COVID-19. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 "Only if we end the pandemic everywhere can we end the pandemic anywhere. The entire world has the same goal: cases of COVID-19 need to go to zero." What is the global situation now? Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Ray,IN said: The latest death statistics; Total U.S.A. population as of 8/3/20 = 330,052,960, total deaths from COVID-19 as of 8/29/20 = 172,884. If my math is correct, that is 0.052% of the USA population is attributed to dying from COVID-19. Making it the #3 cause of death in the US, according to the CDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, remoandiris said: Making it the #3 cause of death in the US, according to the CDC. And if we add another 200,000 deaths by end of year (current estimate) it will be close to overtaking cancer deaths. Seeing pictures already of people "party - hearty" parties, don't portend well for what we will start seeing in 2 weeks. I will never understand why people work so hard against their own best interests. Sigh Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Kirk W said: "Only if we end the pandemic everywhere can we end the pandemic anywhere. The entire world has the same goal: cases of COVID-19 need to go to zero." What is the global situation now? That is a very informative chart/graph, thanks Kirk. It appears the U.S.A. is on the downside of the bell curve, hope it remains that direction. Side note; yesterday Northeastern University had police shut down a party in a hotel after a university newspaper reporter posted a picture from the hotel room. The university expelled 11 students, and will not return their $35,000 tuition for this semester. That should send a strong message to the rest of the students, and their parents. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Barbaraok said: And if we add another 200,000 deaths by end of year (current estimate) it will be close to overtaking cancer deaths. Not quite. Cancer is almost 600,000 per year, but I think your point is some people are making decisions without thinking of the consequences. And that appears to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 Here are some interesting charts: https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/512427-covid-19-now-no-3-cause-of-death-in-us https://virusncov.com/ https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/?fbclid=IwAR3wVfkajprv-RKyrVxmRq_Y5pIYurLQbmKWaVuc45dEoJ2PJ8KZLK4wjdo Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Ray,IN said: That is a very informative chart/graph, thanks Kirk. It appears the U.S.A. is on the downside of the bell curve, hope it remains that direction. Side note; yesterday Northeastern University had police shut down a party in a hotel after a university newspaper reporter posted a picture from the hotel room. The university expelled 11 students, and will not return their $35,000 tuition for this semester. That should send a strong message to the rest of the students, and their parents. They were all in a special study-aboard program and were being put up in the hotel prior to departing for overseas (quarantine ahead, etc.). It is a very LIMITED number of students who get to do it and therefore, they university had already committed to the costs of these students overseas and other students who would have followed the rules didn't get the chance. I can't feel sorry for them, both they and their parents KNEW ahead of time what would happen if they broke the rules - the university had sent out reminders before they ever came to school. Transition to being and adult is hard for a lot of students. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanZemke Posted September 6, 2020 Report Share Posted September 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Ray,IN said: Corona means new/not seen before. Not in this context. Corona virus was coined (before Covid-19 appeared) because of conceptual similarities with our model of our Sun. The properties and processes of the the interior of our Sun appear to be much different than those at the surface. So too, with Corona viruses. Corona virus cores are surrounded by "spikes", which were thought to be analogous to our Sun's corona. Not a big deal, but no need to perpetuate a misunderstanding about the reason for calling this class of viruses Corona. Quote Volvo 770, New Horizons Majestic and an upcoming Smart car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 hours ago, DanZemke said: Not in this context. Corona virus was coined (before Covid-19 appeared) because of conceptual similarities with our model of our Sun. The properties and processes of the the interior of our Sun appear to be much different than those at the surface. So too, with Corona viruses. Corona virus cores are surrounded by "spikes", which were thought to be analogous to our Sun's corona. Not a big deal, but no need to perpetuate a misunderstanding about the reason for calling this class of viruses Corona. Thanks for educating me Dan. I got that from the WHO website. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanZemke Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 12:35 AM, Ray,IN said: Corona means new/not seen before. Ray, In retrospect, my prior response to your post does look a bit like a lecture. Sorry. I checked the WHO website, Wikipedia and several dictionaries. I googled "what does corona mean" and "does corona mean new". Alas, nothing I could find said anything like "Corona means new/not seen before". My suspicion is that something on the WHO website was poorly written, and said something like: "the novel corona virus means it's a new infection type for humans". In any case, I meant no offense. Dan Quote Volvo 770, New Horizons Majestic and an upcoming Smart car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Dan did say out of context and he wouldn't know if someone has been to the WHO site or anywhere else. I thought Novel meant new and also had heard it meant unknown before by specific strain. Not that this makes any darn difference much to the layman. I think Dan may be a technical kind of guy. Often the kind of guy you want dealing with an issue but please please please don't explain it in detail.😀 Since stuff here come out "flat", I could think Ray was being sarcastic funny, or just sarcastic. Ain't always easy to tell. ' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 "Mom, I just need to know the steps to get the answer, not how the steps were developed!" said one teenager to me during many an evening homework sessions. 😉 Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanZemke Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 12:35 AM, Ray,IN said: Corona means new/not seen before. OK, I clearly failed to communicate what I intended, to multiple people. So here's a more concise version of my original intent: "Corona" does not mean new or not seen before, regardless of any contrary statement on the www.who.int website. Quote Volvo 770, New Horizons Majestic and an upcoming Smart car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, DanZemke said: OK, I clearly failed to communicate what I intended, to multiple people. So here's a more concise version of my original intent: "Corona" does not mean new or not seen before, regardless of any contrary statement on the www.who.int website. Maybe this will help : corona [ kuh-roh-nuh ]SHOW IPA SEE SYNONYMS FOR corona ON THESAURUS.COM noun, plural co·ro·nas, co·ro·nae [kuh-roh-nee]. a white or colored circle or set of concentric circles of light seen around a luminous body, especially around the sun or moon. Meteorology. such a circle or set of circles having a small radius and ranging in color from blue inside to red outside, attributable to the diffraction caused by thin clouds, mist, or sometimes dust (distinguished from halo). Also called au·re·o·la [aw-ree-uh-luh, uh-ree-], aureole. Astronomy. a faintly luminous envelope outside of the sun's chromosphere, the inner part consisting of highly ionized elements. a long, straight, untapered cigar, rounded at the closed end. Botany. a crownlike appendage, especially one on the inner side of a corolla, as in the narcissus. Anatomy. the upper portion or crown of a part, as of the head. Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 I just wish I still thought it was a brand of beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanZemke Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 In my younger days, I used to enjoy Corona. And particularly enjoyed several trips with friends to Rosarito Beach. Later in life, I tried brewing my own ale/beer, but after a few years, decided it took more time than I was willing to devote. Still, pleasant memories. Quote Volvo 770, New Horizons Majestic and an upcoming Smart car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Really prefer Dos Equis Amber When we could still go out for Mexican Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justRich Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 Yes. Even more as heart muscle damage is believed to occur. Quote ‘Carnage’ in a lab dish shows how the coronavirus may damage the heart Source: https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/04/carnage-in-lab-dish-shows-how-coronavirus-may-damage-heart/?fbclid=IwAR2NFqFGN6SXV4U7Xput3BOjt7TxaLLyACbTzWl_9ojsVp41YNcfurEwYUI And the article was sourced from: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.25.265561v1 Quote ~Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanZemke Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 I preferred Dos Equis too. My favorite was a Belgian Ale, but it was too expensive for anything other than a rare splurge, back in the days of school when any type of food was my primary concern. Quote Volvo 770, New Horizons Majestic and an upcoming Smart car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 7, 2020 Report Share Posted September 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, DanZemke said: I preferred Dos Equis too. My favorite was a Belgian Ale, but it was too expensive for anything other than a rare splurge, back in the days of school when any type of food was my primary concern. 😎😎 Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, DanZemke said: Ray, In retrospect, my prior response to your post does look a bit like a lecture. Sorry. I checked the WHO website, Wikipedia and several dictionaries. I googled "what does corona mean" and "does corona mean new". Alas, nothing I could find said anything like "Corona means new/not seen before". My suspicion is that something on the WHO website was poorly written, and said something like: "the novel corona virus means it's a new infection type for humans". In any case, I meant no offense. Dan None taken Dan, again thanks for educating me. I do think that was the way what I read was written. The written word makes communicating more difficult than speaking face to face. Often when composing a reply, my high school English teacher pops into my mind. For the first 4 months of this pandemic Corona Beer fought a publicity battle to disassociate themselves from this SARS-CoV-2. Edited September 8, 2020 by Ray,IN Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 This may help to explain what novel coronavirus means.... the first question: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Actually this is a better link https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html There are at least 4 other coronaviruses that have been identified in animals that have the potential of mutating enough to jump to humans. Covid-19 was also identified some years ago as an animal virus that might jump, but funding for further research was stopped. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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