slackercruster Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 I was told when I bought my rig that we all share the water and electric door key. And the main cabin door key on top is a shared key and the deadbolt lock below it is a special key that is not shared. Don't know if what I was told about the cabin door is true, but ran across this site today that supports the rest of the lock sharing claims. https://shoprvlocks.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Most RV manufacturers only have a very limited number of door keys but often use a deadbolt that has a wider variety. Now if you want a common key, the vast majority of outside storage access uses the CH751 keys that can be purchased anywhere. At least 4 of the 6 RVs that we have owned over the past 40+ years have used that 751 for outside bay locks. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 I really don't know why you want everyone know what's what . Sure , the pro will not be discouraged . I mean , there is some security in ignorance > the less than pro ignorance . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, Pat & Pete said: I really don't know why you want everyone know what's what . Sure , the pro will not be discouraged . I mean , there is some security in ignorance > the less than pro ignorance . That ‘ secret’ has been out for decades. We don’t lock bays during the six months we travel in the summer. Plus, one look in them, no one is going to want to spend time hauling everything out with everyone in the park watching, for rolls of duck tape, Teflon tape, extra water hose, old chairs, old grill, etc. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Camper Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 We replaced the keys about a week after we bought the RV. Same with the deadbolt. There are only three sets. We each have a set and we have a third secured elsewhere. Locks only keep honest people honest. By changing the keys we have more peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Barbaraok said: That ‘ secret’ has been out for decades. We don’t lock bays during the six months we travel in the summer. Plus, one look in them, no one is going to want to spend time hauling everything out with everyone in the park watching, for rolls of duck tape, Teflon tape, extra water hose, old chairs, old grill, etc. I know , but , still ... Why let the new gen know . They need to figure some things out for themselves . LOL We don't lock bays either . I'd rather let them have what's there than try replacing a door . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 My MH insurance is $1,000 deductible, nothing behind any of my basement doors is worth that much, they can have it if they leave my doors alone. I do lock the basement doors when traveling, more than anything to insure they are actually closed and latched. I don't care how expensive a new lock is, a large screwdriver can easily break the plastic slam latches - while destroying the door. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Pat & Pete said: I know , but , still ... Why let the new gen know . They need to figure some things out for themselves . LOL We don't lock bays either . I'd rather let them have what's there than try replacing a door . I had an huge supply of extra 751 keys because they were also the lock on fire extinguisher cabinets throughs the university where I worked - and no, we didn't keep the extinguishers locked in their cabinet, that was just the way they came from manufacturer. Hence my huge supply of those keys. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotoes Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 Not sure but was once told by law enforcement that many autos likeToyota and Honda only have 6 or 7 different keys and if you have a copy of each you can unlock any one. Quote 2015 Itasca Ellipse 42QD 2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock Edition 2021 Harley Street Glide Special Fulltimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Pat & Pete said: I know , but , still ... Why let the new gen know . They need to figure some things out for themselves . LOL We don't lock bays either . I'd rather let them have what's there than try replacing a door . Which "new generation"?, LOL Shouldn't take long for a new RVer: It's a "PITA" and a waste of time. Thieves already have it figured out & have a.... "basic - fits everything - key" !! It's called a slot head screwdriver !! BTW: I change out all those locks to thumb turn style. No key required. Been doing that since my first TT in the 70's - Also MH's & 5th wheel . Nothing stolen yet. If there's a first time, guess that's amortization..... and time to upgrade unnecessary stuff in there...😉 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR "Scott" Cundiff Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 A few years ago I opened a guy's door for him. They had managed to lock themselves out and tried every window, etc. trying to get back in. When we noticed what was going on I went over and offered to try my key because I had heard that there weren't that many different keys. In spite of the fact that our RVs were different brands and years I opened it right up for him. Quote Our "Here and There" Blog 2005 Safari Cheetah Motorhome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 We do not have a 751 key on any door but the leveling system access. All other keys are double edge or barrel keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 We never locked our bay doors. The repair of a damaged door would be more costly than what's behind the door. There were many times while boondocking or in public campgrounds we left without locking the main door when going for a walk. Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Barbaraok said: I had an huge supply of extra 751 keys because they were also the lock on fire extinguisher cabinets throughs the university where I worked - and no, we didn't keep the extinguishers locked in their cabinet, that was just the way they came from manufacturer. Hence my huge supply of those keys. So , we know who to call when we lose our keys . 2 hours ago, Pappy Yokum said: Which "new generation"?, LOL Shouldn't take long for a new RVer: It's a "PITA" and a waste of time. Thieves already have it figured out & have a.... "basic - fits everything - key" !! It's called a slot head screwdriver !! BTW: I change out all those locks to thumb turn style. No key required. Been doing that since my first TT in the 70's - Also MH's & 5th wheel . Nothing stolen yet. If there's a first time, guess that's amortization..... and time to upgrade unnecessary stuff in there...😉 . I kinda like the thumb turn idea , but all our locks are within the bay handles . Would be a bit redundant , for us . I swear stuff gets stolen a lot . Every time I end up finding it the very last place I put it . LOL We do try to have designated places , but ... Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Twotoes said: Not sure but was once told by law enforcement that many autos likeToyota and Honda only have 6 or 7 different keys and if you have a copy of each you can unlock any one. That used to be typical of most cars although I do believe that the number of different keys was somewhat higher, there were far fewer keys that there were cars. With key design improving so too did the number of available keys for each year model. The arrival of internally cut keys provided far more possible combinations with numbers in the hundreds. In 1985 Chevrolet added a coded resistor to the key of the Corvette and soon others followed. The advent of chipped keys has brought about keys that must be matched to codes in the automobile's computer, adding thousands of possible combinations. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Kirk W said: That used to be typical of most cars although I do believe that the number of different keys was somewhat higher, there were far fewer keys that there were cars. With key design improving so too did the number of available keys for each year model. The arrival of internally cut keys provided far more possible combinations with numbers in the hundreds. In 1985 Chevrolet added a coded resistor to the key of the Corvette and soon others followed. The advent of chipped keys has brought about keys that must be matched to codes in the automobile's computer, adding thousands of possible combinations. True! "Back When" a hide-out (spare) key was about one dollar - and easy to hide! Now a spare "chipped" key will run you about $80. from the dealer. No - "On Star"....so - yes on the $80 spare. Finding a good hiding place is more difficult than in the good 'ol days (especially if it's a "fob" type). BTW - Auto theft deterrent. Ya gotta love the honking horns.......that everyone ignores while muttering %*&^# about the owner. 😁 Edited June 13, 2021 by Pappy Yokum typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamMedevac 70 Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) Been RV camping since 2003 and the thieves so far have never bothered my simple looking plain jane truck or rig in the many states and campgrounds I have visited. When in remote areas I can watch my outfit with binoculars and will fire a shot in the air (BLM desert) if anyone messes with my trailer. One time a long time ago two dudes were approaching me as they fired their rifles into the sage brush trying to kill rabbits. I stood up from my chair with my semi automatic rifle and told them to move on and they both back tracked without delay and I watched them drive off in their wheelies. They were checking me out IMHO. Others have left when they saw me watching them with my binoculars. Very simple and easy to do. Retired Acct & SEC CFP and former Army Guard and civilian pilot to two Texas Governors plus legislative aide. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1739912699644241&type=3 Edited June 13, 2021 by NamMedevac 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce t Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 With new cars you don't even need the key out of your pocket. As long as the cars computer can talk to it it will work. I knocked one of our basment doors closed. Yes I had put the keys on the basement floor. The door slammed shut and some how locked itself. What to do? I called a RV service guy who came to the RV park. 10 seconds after arriving I was handing over his $50 fee. He just gave the door a sharp pull and it came open! FWIW it was an expensive Country Coach with "top" security. So they said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelinbob Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 A few months ago a thief entered our RV Storage lot and used his CH751 key to gain entry to as many storage bays as he could. He gained access to ours but he didn't see anything of value. I'm sure glad he used his key instead of a big screwdriver. I could have changed my bay door locks many years ago but thought I would be better off to keep the 751 and save the doors. Quote 2006 Elite Suite 36TK32001 F-550 Starhaulerwww.mytripjournal.com/elitesuitestravelsIN GOD WE TRUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podwerkz Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Dang. I've been hiding my extra $100 bills in a bank pouch in the outside storage compartments. Common keys? Who knew? Quote Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 What type of expensive items does everyone keep in their bays that are worth having to pay $2500+ to replace the bay door - not to mention painting, pain of finding someone to fix it, being without rig while painting done, etc. Hoses, cords, patio furniture, grill, extra fluids? All of that can be replaced for fair less than the cost of a damaged bay door. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, travelinbob said: I could have changed my bay door locks many years ago but thought I would be better off to keep the 751 and save the doors. The thumb turn is handier for you......and a thief. Also......some? thieves aren't smart enough to have a 751. First RV (after tents) 1975. So far nobody has stolen anything in compartments -or- outside. "Outside" means "unsecured" things like lawn chairs. Bikes etc. get secured. BTW "podwerkz": Check the pouch. Switched the 100's to 1's a month ago!...😉 Edited June 13, 2021 by Pappy Yokum Benjamins gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 Quote I've been hiding my extra $100 bills in a bank pouch in the outside storage compartments. Common keys? Let me know where your RV is stored and I'll go by and check if your money is in there. 😁 2 hours ago, Pappy Yokum said: First RV (after tents) 1975. So far nobody has stolen anything in compartments -or- outside. We got our first in 1972 and like you have never had anything stolen. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce t Posted June 13, 2021 Report Share Posted June 13, 2021 We have gone for a short drive. On return our water hose had been disconnected and stolen. Now tell me how low some folks can go! BTW it was in a "high end" RV part in Fort Worth. We were parked among a lot of "high end" RVs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 4:33 PM, bruce t said: We have gone for a short drive. On return our water hose had been disconnected and stolen. Now tell me how low some folks can go! BTW it was in a "high end" RV part in Fort Worth. We were parked among a lot of "high end" RVs. High end - Low life.........but - Apparently the thief didn't have to get it out of a storage compartment !! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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