aknavy Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 Besides on the deck/in the drom, how are people mounting fresh water tanks? Fresh water is our limiting factor for boondocking. Currently using a 60 gallon bladder to refill, but would really like to carry a couple hundred gallons on the truck. We have a big drom behind the cab and about 6 feet of room behind it, but don't want to block that off with a water tank, as it would block access to the drom, and we put the generator in that area to run when needed. We have a big tank on the trailer, but the water in it = pin weight and the trailer complains if we tow with more than 50 gallons. Quote 2001 VNL 660 2018 DRV Fullhouse JX450 2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted August 15, 2021 Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 How long do you stay in one place boondocking? We had 105 fresh; 65 grey; 45 black and could easily last 2 weeks. Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aknavy Posted August 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2021 15 hours ago, 2gypsies said: How long do you stay in one place boondocking? We had 105 fresh; 65 grey; 45 black and could easily last 2 weeks. We stay 10-14 days. Use about 10-15 gallons a day unless we're trying to stretch it. I know we can use less, but we like showers, do dishes every other day, and both us and the dogs drink alot of water. While we have a 100 gallon tank on the fifth wheel, I don't like traveling with it full, as it's weight almost directly translates to pin weight on the trailer, so I'd rather travel with the weight on the truck. Quote 2001 VNL 660 2018 DRV Fullhouse JX450 2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imurphy907 Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 I currently use a 275g tote. But when I build the bed, I will be incorporating 2 75g water tanks into the bed as well as a tank for grey/black water. Quote 2016 Road Warrior 420 2001 Volvo VNL 660 Alaska Based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybanshee Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 I added a 50 gal tank under the faring in front of the fuel tanks on each side. Quote 2007 Volvo 780 Ultrashift Trailersaver Hitch 2017 Momentum 397th 3 Yamaha Banshees 2 Honda 400EX's Polaris Outlaw 50 Polaris Outlaw 110 EFi 2018 Polaris RZR S 1000 Stealth Black 2019 Polaris RZR S 1000 Titanium Matte Metal 2015 Polaris RZR S 900 VooDoo Blue https://i.imgur.com/e0ajU8Pl.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyA Posted September 24, 2021 Report Share Posted September 24, 2021 We have used a queen size water bed mattress on the deck of the truck bed for all but drinking water. Works well, holds lots of water and makes a good place to take a nap and get a suntan. Quote Randy, Nancy and Oscar "The Great White" - 2004 Volvo VNL670, D12, 10-speed, converted to single axle pulling a Keystone Cambridge 5th wheel, 40', 4 slides and about 19,000# with empty tanks. ARS - WB4BZX, Electrical Engineer, Master Electrician, D.Ed., Professor Emeritus - Happily Retired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usbusin Posted September 25, 2021 Report Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, RandyA said: We have used a queen size water bed mattress on the deck of the truck bed for all but drinking water. Now that is thinking outside of the box for sure!!! Quote 2001 Freightliner FL70, Cat 3126b 300hp, 860 lb/ft, 6 speed manual Eaton/Fuller Motorhome body by Transport Designs (37 ft overall) Motorhome Specs and Pictures Our Music Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 I use a couple 55 gallon drums. Lay on their side put a spigot in one bung and shrader valve in the other. Pressurize with air and you got running water. This was my first test using a cheap 12 volt air compressor. I held the hose above my head as high as I could reach and it pushed water out. I had no problems filling my camper. Since then I have started using a water pump salvaged out of an old RV. It works just as well maybe better but you have to vent the barrel. Take the core out of the shrader valve. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 At summer base camp I use a diesel exhaust fluid tote to transfer water - I use a RV water pump etc. Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On my service truck I use a 4" PVC X 10'L with an elbow on the upper end for filling and venting, then a cap with an adapter for a hose bib, a short hose and a shutoff to have water on jobsites, that I use mostly to wash hands etc after working all day or before lunch. I put a bit of a slope on the pipe and used unistrut to mount it to my rack, does what I need. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 I carry a 120 gallon well pressure tank. The rubber bladder in the tank makes it pressurized so it is like being hooked to a hydrant. It will pressurize to whatever static pressure you fill it with. That is about 100 psi at my house. There is a hose bib on the outlet and I just put my regulator and hose on it and then hook the other end to the rv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 hours ago, tyates007 said: I carry a 120 gallon well pressure tank. The rubber bladder in the tank makes it pressurized so it is like being hooked to a hydrant. It will pressurize to whatever static pressure you fill it with. That is about 100 psi at my house. There is a hose bib on the outlet and I just put my regulator and hose on it and then hook the other end to the rv. Good idea Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 15 hours ago, tyates007 said: I carry a 120 gallon well pressure tank. The rubber bladder in the tank makes it pressurized so it is like being hooked to a hydrant. It will pressurize to whatever static pressure you fill it with. That is about 100 psi at my house. There is a hose bib on the outlet and I just put my regulator and hose on it and then hook the other end to the rv. Where did you put it? When full it could weigh almost 1000 lbs. according to my calculation. Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisvr Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 17 hours ago, tyates007 said: I carry a 120 gallon well pressure tank. The rubber bladder in the tank makes it pressurized so it is like being hooked to a hydrant. It will pressurize to whatever static pressure you fill it with. That is about 100 psi at my house. There is a hose bib on the outlet and I just put my regulator and hose on it and then hook the other end to the rv. This has me thinking. I've got an area under my truck that I could hang a 150 gal tank . Then install a 12v air pump to keep to pressurized to 40 to 60 psi and run hose to 5th wheel. Quote "It is better to have more truck than you need than to need more truck than you have" 2001 Volvo 660, Cummins 400 ISX, Eaton 3 Peddle Auto Shift 2014 Fuzion 40' Toyhauler 2015 Smart Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Has anybody tried one of these?? https://www.usaberkeyfilters.com/products/aquatank-ii-emergency-water-storage-container/ I have a TWO friends with new RV's that do NOT have an outside water fill. I guess they are designed to be ONLY used in RV parks!!! This looks like a easy cheap solution. You can attach a blow out fixture to one of the hose fixtures and blow out the water out the other fixture. Just like JenandJon recommended!!! Great solution. Does it work?? Quote Vladimr Steblina Retired Forester...exploring the public lands. usbackroads.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Vladimir - I had a truck camper once with no outside gravity fill. Fill was accomplished by moving a valve and filling via the city connector. Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Yeah, that works real great until the nearest city connection is 40 miles away!!! I have TWO water pumps for filling the water tank from a stream. None of those work well, but then again I have not tried real hard since I do have an outside fill. Best system, while I was working we took several hundred feet of garden hose and ran it up the hillside to a creek. At the end of the garden hose but a plastic milk gallon with the bottom cut out. That worked great. Plus the first guy back into camp got a hot shower!! Quote Vladimr Steblina Retired Forester...exploring the public lands. usbackroads.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Vladimir said: Has anybody tried one of these?? https://www.usaberkeyfilters.com/products/aquatank-ii-emergency-water-storage-container/ I have a TWO friends with new RV's that do NOT have an outside water fill. I guess they are designed to be ONLY used in RV parks!!! This looks like a easy cheap solution. You can attach a blow out fixture to one of the hose fixtures and blow out the water out the other fixture. Just like JenandJon recommended!!! Great solution. Does it work?? The first sentence I read was they were not for potable water. I next read that some of them are only built to be stationary. Final issue for me is there doesn't seem to be a way to secure them and I doubt they have internal baffles. I would not use them. I did inquire about bladders used in ship building and they can be custom sized and have securement areas. The spot I thought would be big enough viewing didn't measure out to be worth the trouble. I might do a well pressure tank. Used them for many years on the "Farm". But I'm still a ways away from wanting to boondock much. Maybe I never will "Need" to. Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, lappir said: The first sentence I read was they were not for potable water. This is what it states: " r produced with a Berkey® water purification system is not designed for water storage. Water storage can be purified through Berkey® water purifiers. Details Aquatank II Water Storage Containers are ideal for heavy duty applications when the Aquatank just isn’t strong enough. Unlike our previous models that were designed to stay in one place after filling. The new Aquatank II can be transported in an SUV, truck, camper or trailer, even when it has water in it, without the risk of damaging the unit., of course with certain precautions. The material used for the Aquatank II is a heavy duty polyurethane coated nylon that is suitable for potable water." The first sentence is that water produced with a Berkey is not designed for water storage. ...... tap water IS suitable for storage. Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, lappir said: The first sentence I read was they were not for potable water. I next read that some of them are only built to be stationary. Final issue for me is there doesn't seem to be a way to secure them and I doubt they have internal baffles. I would not use them....................... Rod Potable water is not an issue. That relates more to how you "manage" your water than the bladder. I don't consider my fresh water tank...potable. We used them in remote fire camps (not the same brand). The shower grey water went into one bladder, but the shower water was supplied by another bladder. The water was pumped into and out of the bladders for moving and disposal. I'd like to hear more about the lack of internal baffles. In my case, it would be pumping from a creek or lake and a short drive, if any, to the trailer. Quote Vladimr Steblina Retired Forester...exploring the public lands. usbackroads.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 hours ago, Vladimir said: Potable water is not an issue. That relates more to how you "manage" your water than the bladder. I don't consider my fresh water tank...potable. We used them in remote fire camps (not the same brand). The shower grey water went into one bladder, but the shower water was supplied by another bladder. The water was pumped into and out of the bladders for moving and disposal. I'd like to hear more about the lack of internal baffles. In my case, it would be pumping from a creek or lake and a short drive, if any, to the trailer. Depending on the size of the bladders and if they were completely full or partial you would have the potential for "Sloshing" which can be very unnerving and potentially dangerous. Internal baffles can tame said sloshing. Reread some of the post's above and saw the one about the Queen sized waterbed mattress. Remember those? Initially no baffles known as "Full Motion" then they came out with "Motionless" with multiple baffles. If you tried one in your youth, which one did you like the best? Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Had both types of water beds. It depended on what I was doing in bed as to which I preferred. Never moved a bladder without baffles, but will take your word for it. Quote Vladimr Steblina Retired Forester...exploring the public lands. usbackroads.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollinbrian Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 I've contemplated hanging two 50 gallon tanks under the passenger side steps. One stainless or plastic for potable, one old aluminum for black/Grey water. If I could cart that in and out regularly we could boondock quite awhile. Quote 2017 Jayco Designer 37rs "Fiona" 2007 Volvo 670 "Henry" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Rod, I use a bladder tank with an installed harness that helps a lot with the "sloshing" associated with baffle less tank. Husky 75 Gallon Potable Water Bladder Tank BT-75PW (plastic-mart.com) Quote 2023 Thor Magnitude XG32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, GeorgiaHybrid said: Rod, I use a bladder tank with an installed harness that helps a lot with the "sloshing" associated with baffle less tank. Husky 75 Gallon Potable Water Bladder Tank BT-75PW (plastic-mart.com) That looks good, especially when full. I'd be careful if it was part full. Of course, what do I really know? In the 1980's my parents had a "Petroleum Jobbership". They sold bulk gasoline, diesel, furnace fuel and oil to farmers and others that still used "Fuel oil" for home heating. I was just out of high school and we had a "Service Station" too. Sometimes I had to take the "Tanker Truck" on deliveries and was warned frequently to make sure I knew when there were less than full tank sections. I think we had a 1500 gallon capacity but it was divided up into a 500, two 300's and two 200's or it could have been another 300 and a 100 gallon. It's been too long. Anyway after my first warning I made the mistake of filling a 300 gallon farm tank from the 500 gallon section instead of emptying a 300. For the rest of the day I was almost sea sick from the truck continuing to try and move after stopping back and forth it would go and curves in the road were no fun at all. I learned my lesson from that, but it was reinforced when I started with the Volunteer Fire Department. They also had a 1500 gallon water tank on the back of a straight truck. No baffles, if the tank was full it was ok to drive, use just a little bit of water out of it and it changed everything. These tanks most are talking about are not as large and if on an HDT, may not be an issue. In the back of a pickup it would be a different story. Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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